I don't like to get into anyone else business, but if I personally knew of anyone taking benefits they weren't entitled to, I'd turn them in in a heartbeat. Especially if they were doing so in order to pioneer. That way, I could not only help get someone who didn't deserve it off the dole, but could hope to bring reproach on the J-dog's name at the same time by making it known what they were doing.
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Do Jehovah`s Witnesses lie to receive Government benefits ?
by smiddy3 injehovah`s witnesses do not respect the ,governments of any nation from my experience with "witnesses" over 33 years as a card carrying member.
the governments are to be exploited taking advantage of all the provisions govt`s, hand out to their citizens.after all the govts, are under the control of satan the devil ,he is the ruler of this world and is at enmity with god.. so they feel justified in practicing deception as they the gov`ts.
being opposer`s of truth have no right to know the real truth.. i personally knew of pioneers who had no intention of finding work but were happy to take unemployment benefits from the govt.
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How were God’s true worshipers to determine virginity of pagan girls?
by Ireneus inin the genocidal instructions supposedly given by god we find this interesting command: “now kill all the boys.
and kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.” (numbers 31:17, 18).
in the midst of killing and plundering, how were the israelites to determine whether each girl “has slept with a man” or not?.
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This whole concept is disgusting, and shows once again that the supposed "god" of the book of Jewish fairy tales is not worthy of respect, much less worship.
In those days, female virgins wore distinctive clothing that denoted their status as such. A "violated" girl or woman, even one who had been raped, could no longer wear this garb, as this would have been considered "false advertising." Similar to a soldier impersonating an officer.
Check out the appalling story in 2 Samuel 13, when David's son Amnon rapes his own half-sister Tamar. Verse 19 mentions her special robe, which she tore off after the rape.
By the way, the very special David, "who God loved," didn't even punish Amnon. "Oh well, whatcha gonna do?" It was another of David's sons, Absalom, who killed Amnon out of revenge a bit later.
Doesn't all this make you wanna fall down and worship the Divine Creator who favored such men?
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How would the Borg view IVF?
by purrpurr inspecifically if an unwed woman decided she wanted a kid without the hassle of dating/relationship /trying to get pregnant etc and just got a sperm doner with ivf?
surely it's not fornication?
the whole process is far removed from sex.
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Everybody above is right. The Society takes the ridiculous position that a married couple can only use their own egg and sperm for IVF; it's adultery and/or fornication to use anyone else's. Even using a surrogate is forbidden. Talk about man-made arbitrary rules...
It's kinda like what they do about the blood issue. They blow some dubious "principle" all out of proportion to make a new "law" and enforce it like it came from the mouth of the big J-dog himself.
In the case of IVF, though, they completely ignore a clear principle that actually IS in their book of Jewish fairy tales. No ambiguity or uncertainty here. Not only is the principle behind modern-day IVF allowed, it was actually mandatory in some cases. There is at least one specific example where someone (Onan) was killed by sky daddy for NOT upholding that principle. He disrespected the brother-in-law marriage arrangement by using his widowed sister-in-law for his own gratification and then spilling his seed on the ground, defeating the whole purpose. See Genesis 38 or the Wikipedia article "Onan" for all the gory details.
Brother-in-law marriage, provided for and in fact required by the Mosaic Law, clearly demonstrates that the physical exchange of DNA does not constitute adultery. The "sin" is in the unfaithfulness and deception. That's why most everyone except religious zealots accept that donating one's eggs or sperm to help someone is not a sin at all, but instead is an unselfish act of the most personal kind. And that's without even considering that modern IVF in clinical in nature, while brother-in-law marriage involved actual intercourse, almost certainly repeatedly, until the desired results were achieved.
I believe the same thing applies to surrogacy, where a couple's fertilized fetus is implanted into another woman. The surrogate gives the couple the wonderfully unselfish gift of carrying their baby to term, all the while considering the baby to be theirs and not her own. How can that be wrong?
I have no use for religious leaders who use their influence and "authority" to run other people's lives. In the end, it's all about power, control, and money.
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Numeracy
by jws ini recently saw on a website where a guy i know posted a link to a video by graham hancock.
now this guy is a nutjob kind of like the ancient alien guys.
this pyramid has been a fascination of crackpots for years.
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Basically, you can correlate anything to anything else if you try hard enough. Especially if you're willing to fudge things a bit to make them fit better (think "Pyramid inches.")
But this denies a scientific principle that has been proven over and over again: Correlation is not the same as causation.
The fact that two or more sets of facts or events can be shown to correspond statistically does not prove that either one actually causes the other. There are usually many other factors in play, some unknown.
My hat's off to jws for starting this thread. I like the way he used logic and reason to demonstrate the folly of looking for hidden signs and meanings to prove a hypothesis you've already accepted as fact. That's pretty much the opposite of the scientific method.
Oh well, whatcha gonna do? People are gonna believe whatever they wanna believe... no proof or logic required.
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Accounts report at Circuit Assemblies to go away
by LevelThePlayingField ini was at the regional convention and asked an elder why is that at the assemblies their is an accounts report but not at the conventions?
he said, well actually they got a letter and in it said that in a little while they will do away with the accounts report stating how much the assembly costs for the weekend and just go to donation basis like at the conventions.. my first thought was, "they will donate even less now.".
anybody else hear about such a thing?.
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I'll bet dollars to donuts they'll still find a way to
extortencourage contributions. They may not announce a "deficit," but they'll for sure announce that the "costs" for this "grand spiritual feast" was X-thousand dollars.I can hear it now: "I'm sure you brothers will keep this in mind when making your generous contributions from your unrighteous riches. Remember, we must put the Kingdom™ first! The Bible warns we must not appear before Jehovah empty handed!" And so on and so on, ad nauseam...
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Film about a Jehovah's Witness with leukaemia
by Amelia Ashton inhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=83t1gmazgsm&feature=youtu.be#menu.
a trailer for "the children act".
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FYI, the book is available on in both the paperback and Kindle editions on Amazon. Also, I found the unabridged audiobook (5 CDs) at my local library. It'll be interesting to see how closely the movie follows the book.
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Georgia jury awards 1 BILLION DOLLARS after guard rapes 14 year old teen
by Esse quam videri inhttps://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/georgia-jury-awards-dollar1-billion-after-guard-rapes-teen/ar-aaxi4l2?li=bbnbfcl.
the public is getting very upset at the abuse of children.
how would the society survive if hit with this kind of award for the conduct of pedophile members when evidence shows they were trying to silence the victim by threats to protect the watchtower's reputation.
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Just wondering... Why was this miscreant convicted of statutory rape and not forcible rape, aggravated rape, or even just rape?
Statutory rape usually means one of the parties was underage and therefore didn't have the legal capacity to consent, even though they may have been eager to tango or may have even been the initiator. Not at all saying that's the case here, but what's going on?
Plus, does anyone else think a billion dollars is a bit much, even for an ax murder?
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Edgar (the Crow) Colludes with the *Russians*
by TerryWalstrom ina couple of years ago, sitting at starbucks outside patio, i became "aware" of a feathered mafioso i eventually named edgar.so weird and varied have been our adventures, i began writing about them.this is only the latest installment in what i like to call: the edgar chronicles_______edgar colludes with the rooskiesi sit carefully selecting which words to use--there are pitfalls to my tale.2 chinese ladies are problematic for a writer who is an olde white male.what if i accidentally stereotype?
i dare not!with your kind permission, i will change the sex and country of origin of my 2 characters to avoid going off the rails.instead, this story is transformed into 2 *russian* guys!
that you crow.
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At least those mentally diseased Russians didn't wear that getup and try to infiltrate a prom somewhere, brazenly flouting their own culture in a cynical attempt to offend peace-loving gyno-Americans. (Chortle, chortle!)
Another great tale, Terry! May the Great Edgar and his humble chronicler live on to time indefinite, regaling us with tales of derring-do or something like that. Salaam, Salaam.
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Receiving so much hate recently....
by stuckinarut2 inwell, as you all know, my wife (unstuck) and i are not df or da.. we just stopped attending several years back after my "apostate" online activity was found by a nosey employee of ours while she was working in our office (long story if anyone wants to know - it would have to be another thread).
we never met with any elders - no congregation judicial activity occurred (as we would never consent to do so anyway).
so our policy has been to be the same kind, loving, normal people we have always been.
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It's a shame when otherwise wonderful people just cannot see that they are going far "beyond what is written."
Years before my father's death, he had to move into assisted living and later a nursing home. I would fly into town every few weeks to visit him. When my sister told me that I could no longer stay in her home when doing so, and that she and her family would no longer even share a meal with me, I said, "No matter how you treat me or what you say to me, you will always be welcome in my home. I would never judge you or treat you differently over something as silly as different religious beliefs." She replied in the most accusatory manner you can imagine, "You're just being magnanimous!" Like that was a bad thing. Go figure...
FYI, I have never been DF or even DA, though I was openly "living in sin" at the time and had been quite vocal (in private) about my view of the Organization and its practices. My father, a Congregation Servant and later Elder for several decades, knew all about that and never once asked me to stop visiting. I called him every single day for years, and he always seemed glad to get my call.
My sweetheart and I married over a year ago and I haven't said a word about the borg to anyone she would know, yet the shunning continues. Self-righteousness must be a heavy burden indeed. Too bad...
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B.O.E.!
by Atlantis inboe file: (massive)language-englishzipped with separate file folders1910--2018downloadhttps://we.tl/v4e9zbinxpatlantis!.
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Thank you so much, Atlantis! There's simply no telling how many people will be helped by having this documentation available.